Cornelia M. Sarell

Mary B. Sorell, Minnie M. and John Sorell--How are they related to Jacob & Angeline (Larose) Rand

Last November I was searching on GenealogyBank.com under Minnie Sorrell and came across an article entitled

WANTS CUSTODY OF HER CHILD.[1] It was dated November 11, 1903. As I opened the article I was quite amazed as it stated that a hearing took place in Worcester Probate Court on a petition of a lawyer for Minnie M. Sorrell, of Bennington, Vt. to get custody of her six year-old daughter.

I entered this on my things to do list (research log) on my Legacy Family tree software program and filed the article in my Worcester Courthouse folder. On July 7 of this year I had an opportunity to go to the Worcester Courthouse to look up the record and order record 32744. They called and said it was in so I went on July 15^th and made some copies of the record.[2]

It states that:

Marshall N. Thayer, attorney for Minnie M. Sorell that Mary B. Sorell is of the age of six years, that she is the daughter of said Minnie B. (sic) Sorell and John M. Sorell, that she is deprived of her liberty and held in custody by Jacob Rand and Angeline Rand, both of Holden in said County against the will of her mother the said Minnie M. Sorell and that she is held in custody by them in the Town of Holden in our said County of Worcester. That said possession of said child was taken by them at Gardner in the County of Worcester about ____ember first A.D. 1903 _______ ______ there she has been kept in custody in said Town of Holden..

Wherefore your petitioner prays that notice may be issued commanding said Jacob Rad and Angeline Rand to appear and bring the said Mary B. Sorell to be examined as this court shall direct.

M.N. Thayer, Atty for Minnie M. Sorell.

Angeline Rand’s maiden surname is Larose and she married (2) her husband Jacob in 1876.

Angeline Larose and Jacob Rand have to be related to my Grandmother Mary B. Sorell, or why would she be in their custody and my G-Grandmother Minnie M. (Howe) Sorell  trying to get her daughter back from them. Angeline Larose' s parents are Gabriel and Lydia (Sears) Larose according to her death record dated Nov. 20 1909 from  Holden, Massachusetts.[3]
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[1] Paper Worcester Daily Spy (Worcester, MA), pg. 8, News/Bank and/or the American Antiquarian Society

[2] Worcester Probate Court Records, #32744
[3]  Massachusetts, Deaths 1841-1915, Holden, MA., Familysearch.com

George F. Howe, Minnie Miola Howe/ Emma Georgiana Howe, Susan Ellen Howe

The above is taken from my Legacy Family Tree genealogy software program. Hopefully it will help explain why I needed the records from the Ticonderoga Town clerk's office.
George Howe's first daughter Minnie Miola Howe with his first wife Emma Sartwell is my biological great-grandmother.
Emma Georgianna Howe, his 2nd child is my mom's (adopted mother) in my mom's words "real mother". I will write more about her another time.
Susan Ellen Howe, his 3rd child is the marriage and obituary from previous post (May 20) was the record I sent away for.

The records have arrived-

1. was it worth the money
2. will I be doing a genealogy happy dance or will it just be another bump in the road of this genealogist's hunt to track down the family history.

Yes I am jumping up and down right out of my shoes!

The following is the Transcription of the marriage record:
For genealogical purposes only
A certified transcript from the register of marriages in the town clerks of Ticonderoga county of Essex state of New York date of marriage 03-08-1900, husband Harry Hall, residence Ticonderoga, date of birth N/A, occupation laborer, husband's birthplace Ticonderoga, NY, father's name  Charles Hall, mother's maiden name Fanny Gorman, first marriage, wife Susan Ellen Howe, residence Ticonderoga, NY, date of birth N/A, birthplace Bridport, VT, father's name George Howe, mother's maiden name Ida Sartwell, first marriage, name of person and official position solomnizing marriage Orville Phillips, place of marriage Ticonderoga, NY, when registered  March 14, 1900 number 43.
This is the marriage record of the 3rd child of my great grandfather.

The following is the Transcription of the other marriage record I sent for:
For genealogical purposes only
A Certified Transcript from the Register of Marriages in the Town Clerks of Ticonderoga, NY, County of Essex, state of New York, date of marriage 11-24-1915Robert Anderson residence Ticonderoga NY, date of birth N/A, occupation Carpenter, husband's birthplace Peru NY, father's name Carrol Anderson, mother's maiden name Ruth Brooks, 1st marriage, wife name Clara Hall, residence Ticonderoga, NY, date of birth N/A, occupation housekeeping, wife's birthplace Ticonderoga, NY, father's name Harry Hall, mother's maiden name Susie Howe, first marriage, person and official position solomnizing marriage D. F. Blackmere, place of marriage Crown Point, NY, registered 11/24 /1915, number 339.
This is the marriage of Clara Hall, Harry and Susan Ellen's daughter which I will tie in when I write more about my mom's mother Emma Georgianna Howe the second child of George F Howe. One of the most important persons in the Howe genealogy family history story.

Blog Posting Committment

While preparing to write my next blog post it suddenly occurred to me, that doing this blog is making me look over my genealogy research like I am under a high powered microscope. I don’t know if it all started when we received the challenge from Thomas MacEntee to join him in his “Genealogy-Do-Over” that started on January 8, 2015 check it out at http://www.geneabloggers.com or when I joined Dear Myrtle’s Beginning Genealogy Study Group  Hangouts on Wednesdays. You can catch Dear Myrtle’s hangouts live, or check it out at  http://blog.geneawebinars.com/2015/01/hangouts-dearmyrtles-beginning.html

I do know when I decided to commit to blogging with consistency that I also wanted to make sure that the information that I am posting about my family genealogy is accurate and well documented. After all family history without documentation is just a fairy tale or fiction. I do not want to be another one of those people that is putting garbage and false statements out on the internet. We have enough of that going on.

So with keeping with the theme of the above mentioned people (Thomas MacEntee and dear Myrtle) I decided to go over all my research with a fine tooth comb. The first thing I wanted to do is get my computer files and genealogy software ORGANIZED. I found some of my citations duplicated, missing or lacking vital information. Thus that is the reason why I have not posted as much as I wanted to.

The software program that I use is Legacy Family Tree. It is the computer software that I started with in 2005. It meets my needs and was very easy to see where I needed to do more work on my tree, especially with my sources and citations. 

I have always been interested in “my roots” and history even as a child, but respected my mother’s wishes not to ‘dig up the past.” About sixteen years ago I decided if I waited for my Mom (died age of 97 yrs. 3 months) to pass on I would never be able to research my family. I dedicate this post to you Mom.

 © Photo taken by Lisa De Haan           
                 Genevieve Fish Vaundell ------12 Nov 1914- 11 Feb 2012 

         at one of her favorites places the white mountains in New Hampshire

 

Help from Ed McGuire--Thanks Posted with his permission

Sorry this has taken so long, but life keeps getting in my way.

Ed McGuire, which I owe a great deal of gratitude to, e-mailed me back on the 30th of April with the following information:

1.       Hinesburg Town Clerk’s office – Volume 1, page 29 of the Hinesburg Register of Births and Marriages-John’s birth 5 Oct 1862 to parents Mary LAROSE and John SORELL.  Father & mother listed as born in Canada.  There was no marriage record in Hinesburg for the couple.

NOTE the entry below is a birth of another child Mary LAROSE to Henry LAROSE and Ellen BRO. This couple does have a marriage record in Hinesburg for 17 Jun 1861, both ages 20. Perhaps there is a relationship to Mary (LAROSE) SORELL??

2.       The baptism and Marriage records of many Catholic Diocese of Vermont have been transcribed by our society (THE VERMONT FRENCH-CANADIAN GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY of Burlington, Vermont) http://www.vtgenlib.org

Hinesburg did not have its own church until the 1940’s. It appears that John, Jr. was baptized in the next town west of Hinesburg (Charlotte) at Mount Carmel parish. Please note that an older daughter Emily, born 22 Oct 1856, but not baptized until her brother John was baptized in 1865.

Ed also checked other records and did a thorough search for my people in Hinesburg but found no other records of this family. He suggested I pursue the LAROSE family, which I am in the process of doing right now.  Thanks ED McGuire. You are an angel.

Salt Lake City Research Trip

It is with great anticipation that I decided to go to RootsTech 2013 in Salt Lake City. I admit that one the big draws was the Family Search Library was there. I thought what a great opportunity to try to break through the Brick Wall of what happened to John Sorell, JR. that married my G-Grandmother Minnie M. Howe in 1894. I have their marriage certificate and a piece of paper with the name of their children written down (as close as our family got to a bible).

1. Mary Belle Sorell                      4 Jul 1896
2. Maude Emily Sorrel                19 Feb 1899
3. Mildred Ida Sorrel                    2 Nov 1900         died 30 Dec 1900

Supposedly Mary Sorell, my biological Grandmother was born in Ticonderoga, Essex, NY; all her later records state that. No record of her or her siblings at the Ticonderoga Town Clerk's office. No record of their births or Mildred's death at the Crown Point, Essex, NY Town Clerk's office. I do want to state for the record that even though New York is a Genealogist's nightmare that both town clerk's have been very accommodating but could not find anything for me.
It was with great hope that I thought someone could help me out at the Family Search Library in Salt Lake, but it wasn't meant to be. I'm still trying to find out how a whole family can fall completely through the cracks. The search will continue.
I have gone back and forth over Lake Champlain, like my ancestors did many years ago between New York and Vermont, but can't find any clues.

Copies of their Birth Records

Here is a copy of the birth record of a John Sorell, Jr. from the Vermont Vital Records 1760-1954 found on FamilySearch.org              Hinesburgh TWP, Chittenden Co., Vermont

Copy of Birth Certificate for Minnie Miola Howe's birth certificate on file at the Bridport, Addison, Co., Vermont,           vol 2, p. 11

 It reads Minnie Miola Howe born Nov 12,1878, father George Howe born in Bridport, Carpenter, mother Emma Sartwell Howe, born Ticonderoga, NY.

Minnie Miola Howe was born in Bridport, Addison County, Vermont on 12 November 1978[1] the child of George Howe, a carpenter, born in Bridport, Vermont according to her birth certificate and Emma Sartwell born in Ticonderoga, New York. Emma was probably the “Emily,” age 10 in the 1860 census of Ticonderoga, among seven children of Darwin and Ellen Sartwell.[2] Her parents were most likely married in 1877 0r 1878, probably in Ticonderoga or Crown Point, Essex County, New York. Emma died in Bridport on 18 December 1878 of obthsis pulmonalis at the age 26 years 9 months and 18 days old, probably as a complication of childbirth.[3]

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[1] Birth Record, Bridport, Vt. Town Clerk, 2:11, copy in the author’s possession; Yoder, Update, 1:170

[2] In 1860 at Ticonderoga, Essex Co., N.Y., Darwin and Ellen Sartwell both age 39, with seven children including Emily, age 10. Yoder, Update, 1:170  says she is the daughter of Darwin and Mary (St. John) Sartwell.

[3] Vermont State Vital Records, born in Ticonderoga, daughter of Darwin and Mary (St. John) Sartwell.

Marriage Certificate

The Marriage certificate reads as follows:

John Sorell of Monckton, Vermont and Minnie M. Howe of Monckton, Vermont were united in the bonds of MARRIAGE at Crown Point, Essex Co., New York on the thirteenth day of October in the year of our Lord Eighteen Hundred and Ninety-four comfortably to the ordinance of God and the Laws of the State.[1]

According to the Town Books at the Crown Point town clerk’s office-John Sorell’s parents are listed as Mary LaRose and John Sorell and he is 28 years of age.  The only birth record that I could find for a John Sorell born to parents with the above names was born 5 Oct 1862 in Hinesburg, Vermont, [2] which would have made him 32 years old at the time of their marriage.

Minnie M. Howe is listed as age 17, and parents are Ida Sartwell and John Howe.[3] 

Minnie Miola Howe was born in Bridport, Vermont 12 Nov 1878, [4] which would have make her just shy of her 16^th birthday. It would appear that they both lied about their age. It was apparently very common in those days to marry young girls to much older established men.

At the moment I can’t prove anything to determine whether this is the John Sorell that married my great grandmother, Minnie. It is a possibility as Monckton, Vermont is not far from Hinesburg or Bridport and they are all in Addison County, Vermont.

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[1] Copy in my possession

[2] Vital Records, Hinesburg, Addison Co., Vt. Book 1, p. 29

[3] Vital Records, Crown Point, Essex Co., N.Y. marriage record in my possession

[4] Vital Records, Bridport, Addison Co., VT. Birth records, p. 7